When People Aren't Curious, it Breeds Exclusion
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When People Aren't Curious, it Breeds Exclusion

Welcome to Inclusion Is Leadership, a biweekly infusion of insights, research, and guidance to create inclusive workplaces. Created by Ruchika Tulshyan, inclusive leadership advisor, founder of Candour and author of Inclusion On Purpose, MIT Press 2022.

I see a disturbing lack of curiosity in professional and social settings.

It concerns me. Without being curious about other people and their experiences, we can’t build empathy or a diversity of relationships.

And what I’m realizing more and more strongly is that we each have a personal responsibility to take action to practice inclusion in every interaction. 

I am not saying systemic change doesn’t need to happen — it does. But how do systems change? Through people. And how do people change? By introducing ourselves to new experiences and perspectives. 

The lack of curiosity coincides with a shift happening in management and leadership all over the world: your work self and home self are inextricable. 

A Life of Inclusion

Who you are at work and outside of work is the same person. “Work life” and “home life” don’t exist on separate planets; it’s all “life.” 

The pandemic made this impossible to ignore, and it applies to caregiving, mental and physical health, relationships, and yes, inclusion. Especially inclusion. 

You could be an effective manager to a team of people from all backgrounds. But when you go home, is your social network all white or male or heterosexual? 

When you go out to eat, shop, buy a book or watch a movie, do you meaningfully and intentionally seek out options from lesser-heard communities? How about when you network, attend a PTA meeting, or take a class? Are there many people who don’t look like you?

If the answer is no, it’s time to cultivate curiosity intentionally. But how?

“Where are you from?”

This isn’t everyone’s reaction, but it surprises me when I meet someone and they don’t ask me where I’m from. 🤷🏽‍♀️ It’s harder still when I say “Singapore” and they ignore me in favor of bonding with the guy next to me over his hometown of Peoria, Illinois (no shade to Illinois, but why don’t we display equally respectful curiosity or excitement, no matter where the person is from?).

Personally, I’ve learned so much from asking “where are you from”!

Ok, I know! It’s a fraught question, often implying you don’t belong here. And to be clear, “where are you from” followed by “no, but where are you really from” is never an acceptable line of questioning (see why here). 

But avoiding that question altogether can feel like a dismissal, akin to supposed (and problematic!) “colorblindness.” 

There are numerous ways we avoid exploring our differences, perhaps out of awkwardness or fear of offending someone. But inclusion doesn’t happen by accident. Research on affinity bias shows that we are naturally drawn to people who are like us

That means if left to our own “natural” devices, we might never extend a hand to someone different from us, especially in our personal lives. In my last Inclusion Is Leadership, Jennefer Witter commented, “In most of my experiences the majority of my staff were white and had never worked for a POC. One of the things I learned was that many had no interaction with people outside their race outside of the workplace.”

That has to change.

To practice inclusion in what you eat, read, watch, or buy is relatively easy — after all, you don’t have to put yourself out there. But what about interacting with people?

This is where we must be open and curious. And we can’t do that without asking questions.

So the next time you attend a conference, join a yoga class, or volunteer at your children’s school, be curious about someone different from you. Approach them with a smile and introduce yourself. Ask some questions. Most importantly, listen intently and make eye contact (even above a mask or virtually). 

In my next Inclusion Is Leadership, I’m sharing a personal story about being excluded from social gatherings in a work context (ugh!), plus how managers and leaders can ensure networking is inclusive. Subscribers to the private version of Inclusion is Leadership will get exclusive access, and you can subscribe here

Now, I would love to hear from you: what questions do you ask when you meet someone new? If you’re a person of color or immigrant to the country where you live, what do you think of “where are you from”? What’s your go-to approach to connecting with a new person? I’m excited to learn from you!

And finally, for those of you celebrating Diwali this week as I am — Happy Diwali and Saal Mubarak!

I love the where are you from question. However its the "but...where are you REALLY from?" that I've always found ignorant and frustrating. However over the years i have come to realise now some people don't understand why asking this was is not appropriate, and its up to me to support and educate people on diversity. Its better to get it wrong and still connect and share experiences than to not talk at all.

Rachel Kindt

Scientific Leadership Coach | Biotech Advisor | Writes at the intersection of head and heart

2y

Appreciate this article as I have been hearing different messages about the “Where are you from?” question. Regardless of the specific answer to when / whether this is a good question, your article reminds us that staying curious and connected is the most important part. Lately, I have been trying “Where did you grow up?” to learn something about a person’s early life.

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Kelly Weber

Strategic Communications Leader | Brand Builder | CSR | PR

2y

My parents have always had German accents and got the “where are you from” question all the time while I was growing up in Canada. They did not like it! My dad now answers, “Down the road” (they’ve lived in Canada longer than Germany but the accent is still there!). As an adult I can watch this interaction with less horror (for the asker and for my parents) than I used to and what I notice is the people who genuinely want to connect will do something with that, like “Oh yeah? Which town?”. Having lived in Dubai and now Singapore, I get the question all the time and I don’t mind at all and I’m relieved I’m allowed to freely ask it too as it’s such a great conversation starter if you’re genuinely interested. If people answer brusquely, I move onto another question :) I think there is some nuance with this question, though, in a country where you can naturalize and become a citizen vs one where you can’t.

Erin Ewart

Career & Leadership Coach | Helping Purpose-Driven Leaders Grow Their Careers and Impact

2y

Thank you for another great article Ruchika Tulshyan! This particularly resonated for me: "I am not saying systemic change doesn’t need to happen — it does. But how do systems change? Through people. And how do people change? By introducing ourselves to new experiences and perspectives." It's so easy to get overwhelmed by all the systemic change that's needed, and how hard that is. I love this reminder about the agency we all have in our everyday lives to practice more inclusion, and how it can be as straightforward as leading with curiosity.

Niti Nadarajah

Empowering Women to get UNSTUCK in their Career by Connecting them to their Inner Compass | DEI Consultant | Mother | Freelance General Counsel | LinkedIn Top Voice | Pink Elephants Ambassador

2y

Personally, I’m not a fan of the question “where are you from?” as it is a question often only asked of people that look like they are from somewhere else. For me, as an Indian kid growing up in Australia with immigrant parents, I had a huge identity crisis and this question never helped as it made me feel like I needed to justify or defend my response of “here”. For me, this question is the same as someone asking “Do you have kids?” It’s meant innocently and as small talk but can be quite triggering for the recipient of the question. However, I do believe in the importance of curiosity and connection. I think you can ask more open questions that get other people to share their story in the way they wish to share it. For example, “I would love to know a little bit about you, what’s your story?” Or “Did you grow up around here?” Or even “what brings you here?” if at a networking event.

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